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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

i'm not sure how this is supposed to be, but:

setting the animated logo as the menubar corner widget will reparent it anyway (i.e. on the deconstructor m_menuBar == parentWidget())

the throbber hack changes this and reparents the logo to the menubar parent.

therefore it can easily happen (and in this case happens) that m_menuBar has been deconstructed before the animatedLogo

so posiible solutions:

a)
skip the whole menubar/parent split in the first place. assume the animated logo is part of the menubar and will be "removed" from it's eventfilter list on the menubars deconstruction.

b)
assume the m_menuBar is unrelated to the animated logo, this includes that it may be deleted/deconstructed at an arbitrary time the logo has no control over.
-> store m_menuBar in a QPointer<QMenuBar> m_menuBar instead QMenuBar *m_menuBar.
On deconstruction you can safely ask
if (m_menuBar)
m_menuBar->removeEventFilter(this);

c)
make a nifty little checkbox in konqueror's config dialog that says:
"No, I DO NOT LIKE THROBBERS" ;-)

(c does not fix a "b" design, though) - Apr 21 2009
debian jedi tux

Cliparts by starwolf 1 comment

that's more like a sith tux...

;-P - Apr 21 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

>i would tend to agree, I *am* using bespin, but particularly because of the menubar, not really anything else. ;P

good news for you again: this feature will be excluded to a style-(semi)independent solution, i.e. you'll be able to use it with e.g. oxygen, qtcurve or any other style (yes, even gtk+) and it works with current GnomeGlobalMenuBar (+ we're working on a new unified protocol)

=P

as for the scrollers:
the "sunken" look should be aqua near enough, yesno? (the major difference is that aqua as strong(er) shadows on the edges - not as aqualike as on qtcirve of course ...) ;-P

the toolboxtabs (amarok playlist window, the playlist itself is painted by amarok using an svg theme) align to normal tabbars (that's common convention) and the sidebar buttons are simply toggled toolboxbuttons (i.e. i don't paint anything special here, except when hacking amarok, by replacing their svg themed look with the systemwide one)

last:
bespin ships with a couple of presets that alter the look pretty much (e.g. look across the redmond.* presets) and i don't see why i should ship qtcurve. craig could sue me for stealing his work =D - Apr 20 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

the problem is the throbber (the crash likely depends on a 5 day old change from KAnimtatedButton to an konqui internal inheritor that in addition monitors the )

unchecking the "Kill throbber hack" should do it.
you'll hate to live with that thing until i updated and align the hack. sorry :-(
(good new is that the throbber is now supposed to be no more oversizing the menubar) - Apr 20 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

.... and what /is/ the style you like?

;-P

(sorry but that was an obvious question)

btw, there're Qt4 styles:
- skulpture
- plastique
- cleanlooks
- qtcurve
- Phase (my choice for a "low end" style)
- Polyester
- Gtk+ (mta engine for gtk styles) - Apr 20 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

yes, tried to fix sth. on tabwidgets using stylesheets, no prob. with kde 4.3, but i forgot to worry on kde 4.2 - thanks for testing ;-P

450 should fix it - Apr 15 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

either the lib is broken or linked with /not gnu/ ld or you're currently not using GNU ld or the ld versions used to link the lib and currently in use differ A LOT.

suse /has/ however recent versions of bespin (rev 445 is the current) available at http://software.opensuse.org/search so there's no strong reason to compile yourself - Apr 12 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

the configure script is (at best) just a frontend for cmake, so e.g. creating a subdir "build", entering it and "ccmake .." will provide you cmake's "GUI" (curses...) configuration tool.

maybe you've just installed kde4 out of path? (the kde4 prefix path is taken from kde4-config which is expected somewhere in your $PATH) - Apr 11 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

install the -dev packages for kdelibs and kdebase (you'll also need dev packages for qt and want the ones for x11/xrender) - Apr 11 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

bespin/kwin/button.cpp, look for "::paintEvent" (~ #310)
but there're no pixmaps/images used so far... (and i wouldn't do that - bad for transitioning) - Apr 10 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

i could reproduce the second (ksysguard, fixed in rev. 445 - was actually triggered by working around a bug in some itemviews to use the proper color on highlighted items...) but not the first (amarok) - see if it's gone as well. otherwise i could need som more info (how is it triggered, what kind of texts overlay each other, etc.) - Apr 10 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

i'll test a more visible slider change (right now only the shadow "shrinks")

regarding the other thing... and as stated a dozen times above...

NO AQUA! ;-P

(if you really want some: bespin has in principle everything on board to do it, the "patch" should thus be a five minute thing) - Apr 10 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

not a bug, but a feature =D
you can choose (window page) a transparency level (and glass effect) for "modal dialogs", i.e. dialogs that block parenting windows (so they look different)

the bespin config dialog changes it's appearance as it get's different window flags when running as standalone app, kcmshell dialog child or systemsettings child - but that's not a bespin thing (aside that the standalone version is a "normal" window - what else should it be... ;-) - Apr 08 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

after importing the first page in bespin's config dialog should show up the imported preset. select it, then press "load" to ... well guess what ;-)

you should not need to change kde/qt color schemes. bespin will do that for you.

every application started after this will use the new preset & colors. (notice that konsole & konqueror, maybe dolphin keep instances and do not start new applications when called from the start menu)

preset changes are not exported, as every app could (in theory) use a different preset

"bespin help" shows a list of possible shell actions (i.e. you can import, load, try & ... without running the GUI config)
it's also possible to run an application with a specific preset by
a) attaching the app to the preset in the config dialog
b) setting an environment var, e.g.:
BESPIN_PRESET=Lightroom kwrite

(notice that "Lightroom" needs to be a valid (imported) and proper cased (->not lightroom) preset, kwrite is just the command to launch a text editor... sorry: THE text editor ;-) - Apr 07 2009
Weather Wallpaper Plugin

Plasma 4 Extensions by jmthomas 36 comments

...i could just pick something with raindrops. fits every day ;-P (scnr) - Apr 07 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

i assume they're there.
the bespin deco doesn't support "i-have-a-dozen-buttons-on my-title" but has /one/ "multibutton" where you can stack in all the extra buttons, define an order (freely, e.g. FBMFBSFBL) (F=above, B=below, m=menu, S=sticky, L=shade; letters follow kwins internal code, so don't blame me ;-) and change the current behaviour with the mousewheel (if you're on a device without wheeling capability: mourn. i'll then look for another way to change them) - Apr 07 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

your config is ok, don't ask me what's wrong there.
either your monitor is broken or you set an incredibly high gamma value (i tested xgamma -g6 and the shadows where still slightly visible, also the title was still readable) or there's sth. wrong with your kde color scheme (you can export that and paste it so i can test it as well...) - Apr 04 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

1) round corners: see thread on last page.
short: x11 only can do bitmasks, no alphablending, the kwin api on this isn't stable, bespin's not shipped with kde, as soon as they change the api you'll have an api/abi incompatibility -> bespin won't compile, compiled versions will segfault kwin. i'm no idiot. support for smooth corners with stable kwin api, likely done during 4.3 dev.

2) i /hate/ the default tab close button. it's too loud, big, glossy, red. the circle matches the deco close button.

3) set the scrollbar groove to sunken. it's not "chopped" except in opera and that's an opera problem. (there's a small glitch on sunken groupboxes, but neither sunken groupboxes nor sunken grooves are default and though the config dialog violates this, scrollbars in groupboxes are an UI error anyway...)
just to make this clear: this is not and will never be an aqua clone. period.

4) decos for apps /not/ styled by (depeding on your setup current users) bespin get the colors from the kwin settings. bespin styled apps (unless you changed this in kwin's bespin dialog) ignore kwin's colors and take the ones sent from the application. the default is to use "window" and "windowtext" - this works here. if really not, please send me your config (/no/ export, but the full ~/.config/Bespin/Style.conf)
on palette changes you currently need to de- and reactivate the window (focus out, focus in) in order to catch the new generated bg pixmaps - this is a known limitation/bug

5) could you please link all 9999999 references? (many of them referred the rectangular ones, btw.) oh, and

... gnarf...

what did i say above?
or below?

NO AQUA!
you /can/ drive the style this direction as an "extreme" but it's certainly not the default or preferred look. and just to be sure:
NO AQUA!

if you want a mac-a-like deco, try dekorator. or write one. (this shouldn't take more than 20 minutes from scratch, given you have some pixmap sources which can be found in about a dozen beryl/compiz themes) - Apr 03 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

well, the simple solution is to just not use it...
however, i'll explain some things:
1.
kwin buttons: i'm open for suggestions here (there're already two version). rules:
- they must /not/ - no way - look like M$ or Aqua. period.
- i use a "zoom" for toolbutton hovering and would like to export this effect to the dec buttons
- those icons tend to be tiny, so they should be simple and differ by shape
actually lassekongos "orange door hint" (social networks are so mean) seems to be a good candidate. maybe i'll include them

i don't know what you mean by "button-ground" but there're 8 different backgrounds to choose from... just to not: diagonal background fractions work on mockups but not in reality (i just had that before)

good to hear that the tabs don't confuse you (wouldn't know why anyway)...
(i'm an ass)
simple as this:
the "traditional" tab look you've been conditioned to derives from a real world model that's hardly used anymore. clicking on some background (the tab, "reiter") and then have magically on the foreground isn't somehow believable either (the natural way was to drag it up, pull it and drop it...) so i looked for something that rather fits the "push to activate" concept
last, by using the tabbar as framing header you avoid the prominent stacking problem (i.e. frame on a framing frame frame...)

finally: if you've got a nice concept for a complete (all important widgets, states, transitions) UI theme you'll likely find someone to do it or can just do it yourself ;-P - Apr 03 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

ad 1)
it's not necessarily "/usr/local/bin" there may be /many/ path overrides (some distros used to choose "/opt" as kde base, traditionally "$HOME/bin" is provided for user overrides, "/home/sys" is used as well...)

just ask "which bespin" to figure out which bin is called by $PATH and check it against the current install path

ad 2)
deleting what you just installed won't help you. that's the "latest" bespin anyway. you want to get rid of the libraries that shadow this one, i.e. are called first
luckily (just checked) qt keeps the style lib opened, so
lsof | grep bespin.so
will tell you which plugin is opened by what application
if this isn't the version you installed, just delete it (this may hold for kwin3_bespin.so as well...) - Apr 03 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

unlikely.
1. i've no gtk styling experience
2. (that's mean) gtk is more or less incapable of doing this (bg color changing is a problem, because many handcrafted widgets seem to ignore state dependend fg colors or just hardcode "black"...; "freaky" things like animation are afaik no option at all; i did not figure how it should ever be possible to port the tab look, i.e. the black bar covering the whole widgets top side...) and the situation gets worse by "gtk abusers" like firefox or openoffice (they don't use GTk directly but their own styling that just makes use of gtk styles)

short: as soon as you want to do anything stylish beyond "the standard", gtk is the wrong toolkit :-(

notice:
as mentinoed, i'm not an expert here. if anyone says: "hey, i know gtk styling and i /can/ do this" - please - prettyplease - contact me! - Apr 03 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

the bespin binaries either ended up in some $PATH dir or don't get in your wa at all, so open a konsole, type
echo $PATH
and you'll get a (longer?) list with path dirs, separated by colons (':')
they're tested in order for containing matches, i.e. /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin ends up calling /usr/local/bin/bespin and ignoring /usr/bin/bespin (if former exists)
clean up there.

the actual bespin style ends up in the style subdir of a Qt plugin dir which is either the one provided by kde ("kde4-config --path qtplugins") or the one by Qt (/whereever/your/qt/is/installed/plugins, e.g./usr/local/qt4/plugins/ - i don't know how to figure out the actual path unless your distro sets the $QTDIR environment - qmake has it compiled in, but i've no idea on howto query it w/o a .pro file)

-> clean up there as well (everysting that says "libbespin.so" or "bespin.so") - Apr 02 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

tab underlining shows "activity".
usually the tabs would change the text color, more or less assuming you're running a black on white color scheme.

i got a bug report on sth. that was actually not related to this, but thought this was addressed (knowing that bespin kills these color changes...) and sought for a "workaround"

i know it's not the most pretty thing, but it doesn't break geometry and i could resist flashing those tabs (waht can be really annoying ;-)

--

the blue line exists for ages and indicates "this item has the focus"
it's a generic focus indicator and used by Qt on many places.
the default btw, (like in oxygen) is a dotted outline... :-\

--

the xbar never centered vertically and - sorry to say this -- plasma is blatantly broken (here and elsewhere, of course that's just my ho)
if you set a certain height, it should remain there and not occasionally change it's size to somewhat different...
1. the top alignment is to keep vertical space for the popups
2. i do not intend to change this because plasma now thinks panels need > 34px minimum height
3. right now, we're working on a common topmenubar for gtk + Qt (+maybe other toolkits)
4. i've lately hacked alot on a simple KDE desktop called blazer, i contacted the author. if he doesn't respond or wants to keep it as minimal as it is, i'll likely fork it
5. i'll add support for the common global menubar there.
plasma? we'll see... >-\ - Mar 29 2009
bespin SVN script

Tutorials and Scripts by Num83rGuy 2 comments

you can make use of the bespin command line interface to import them
bespin import <some_preset.bespin> will install one, but also create a new entry (using a counter -> Default#2)
i could add "bespin update <some_preset.bespin>"

as for the kdm theme (and bash)

kdm_path="$(kde4-config --path data)"
kdm_path="${kdm_path##*:}kdm/themes/"
-> there goes the bespin folder

kdm_rc="$(kde4-config --path config)"
kdm_rc="${kdm_path##*:}kdm/kdmrc"
-> this is where kdm stores it's settings

sed -i -e "s%^Theme=.*%Theme=${kdm_path}bespin%g" "$kdm_rc"

!!!
use e.g. '%' as delimiter for sed's swiss army knife, not '/' (as it appears in the paths)

the above will only catch entries with "Theme" at the very beginning of the line, reason:
at least "UseTheme=true" is in use as well (you could catch this by appending a substitution that sed's "UseTheme=true", but you need to prevent overriding other entries)
-> you could catch blanks before "Theme" as your homework ;-)

last on the bootsplash theme:
i strongly suggest to KEEP AWAY FROM THAT
it's not like it's broken, evil or ugly, but this usually includes updating the initrd.
as there's afaik no std. way to do this, it should be entirely up to the distros and on their responsibility to do that.
i strongly suggest to /NOT/ do that by a generic theme (while it could work e.g. on Ubuntu, maybe your opensuse won't boot next time, and not exactly everyone is capable of running a lifesystem and fixing his grub - OR LILO from there...) - Mar 28 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

nope, sorry - no dialog, no buttons (i tested the svn code)

however, i thought its about unreadable tabs, not buttons.

please just mail me a screenshot of how it's supposed to be and how it's with bespin, thanks - Mar 28 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

the padding is (by default) strongly font depend (the screenshot used segoe ui, which has extreme extents)

i'm working on a font independent padding system (including "the font padding hint is ignored") but delayed it for some other stuff :-( - Mar 26 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

test rev 438 for konqueror (you need to create a new instance, i.e. call "konqueror" from a shell, do not use the applaucher or krunner icon)

sorry you don't like the arora icons? got a better idea (i'll not make arora lok like sarari. <- that spells "period")

the sliders follow the button colors (though this is not correct, they should rather be related to the progress"bars")
however, this leads to some kind of aqua look, as they turn blue on hover (tested the cupertino presets?) - Mar 26 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

sorry, the scfreenshot was taken a long time ago - long before bespin had preset support, and i simply have no config file left from then :-(

(it would likely also require to be updated due to the many meanwhile changes)

i'll try to "clone" it, but the original is lost forever :-( - Mar 26 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

ok, i guess i'll have to test that myself, but:

i don't chat. never.

so if you've got a link like "setup an account and enter this useful chatroom for dummies" for me, that would be quite helpful... as i have really no clue on how to do that and am seriously not interested at all (in chatting... i want to fix this nevertheless)

(yes, i'm aware that the "book" title is ambiguous... ;-P) - Mar 25 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

freaky. someone else just mentioned that problem on the sf.net bugtracker.
you don't happen to be the same... nahhh ;-P

ok, this isn't really trivial.
the problem is that those apps (as well as konqueror) just set a random color to the painter (like "neutral" from the kde color scheme extension, what happens to be yellow... on light grey... OUCH!) and hope for the best, while bespin allows you to choose any role for the tab bg (like blue from the highlight role... shit if the tab text turns blue as well...)

ok. try rev. 436
i do some color comparing and set the font underlined if i think the tab has wants a special text color (i.e. requests attention - likely the core reason for this)

oh and please - just in case.
and everyone:
choose /one/ location to mourn on a bug and if you know the guy who filed the bugreport on sf.net, please ask him if this is solved for him and in case close the bug,

thanks ;-P - Mar 25 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

why do the blurred disabled text look different in dolphin?
-
the pixelated round (window) corners derive from xshape (that cannot handle alpha values but just bitmasks)
smooth alphablended corners are only available with a composite manager, but
1. the support in KWin is rather new (4.2 afair)
2. the API is already tagged depreached for (at least?) 4.3

this does not mean the feature will then be gone, but just it uses another interface for the deco (and i'm not stupid or masochistic enough to intentionally add API+ABI incompatibilities ;-) - Mar 24 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

this strongly depends on your bespin setup.

1., you must understand, that GTK is not really capable of changing the contrast on hover (like bright bg -> dark bg) ... well it is, but several self implemented widgets that look like buttons just ignore colors and assume black is the only valid fg color...

good candidates could be the rudberg clones (milk, alloy) as they've slim UI items, AquaExtremSunken (ther's a whole bunch of gtk aqua clones), azel, slickness (though the last hasn't really slim buttons, but it's cute)

the button extends on the pixmap themes (and i think on aurora etc. as well) are however configurable - but you'll need to ask some gtk guru on how to do that ;-) - Mar 24 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

yes, amarok recently changed the layout. rev. 434 is now again perfectly aligned on latest amarok.

if it's totally out of position for you - sorry :-(
(ok, just send me a screenshot) - Mar 22 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

1) you don't - it's been there all the time, btw. (takes halfwise the hover color)

2) sounds you're running the raster or gl engine (on at least some apps)? this will cause the deco to use the setup fallback (as i cannot pass background pixmaps from the app to the deco - this is an X11 only feature)
to better know what's actually wrong i'd like to see a screenshot and need your ~/.config/Bespin/Style.conf

3) i didn't change anything about font rendering in general and certainly not on the tabs (the last change was on rev. 410 when i conditioned the bold setting of the active tab depending on the colorrole combination)
could it be you also updated Qt to Qt4.5 and now half your libs/system links 4.4 and the rest 4.5 which was eventually compiled with a different def. graphicssystem?

4) the tab painting of (konqueror & kdevelop) has recently changed. they used to use a proxy style but now and with Qt4.5 they use the documentcontent feature. i catch the Qt version and aligned bespin. If really necessary i can keep the proxystyle query for Qt 4.5 - but from all above, we should first figure out your system setup ;-) - Mar 22 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

stunning... looks like the whole opera doesn't paint properly...

ok, i'll try to say it as clear as possible:
don't use the "Qt Native" style with bespin. best: don't use it at all (at least for the moment)

while opera is really a great browser, the "native" style usage is "in production" at best and "crap" if worst... (it is NOT native, opera just uses the app style to paint it's widgts, and descently selects pushbuttons to paint the tabbar... D'OOOHH!)

the problem you encounter here is that opera doesn't query valid submetrics from the style (as supposed) but just assumes (in this case) the groove will cover the whole area of the widget and throws that rect into the groove paint routine (instead the whole scrollbar paint routine, where bespin would take care of those geometry issues)
this doesn't hurt, if the groove actually covers the whole widget (like e.g. in windows or another bespin setup) or is just a line, but in this particular setup it simply doesn't work.

also opera does not pass widgets through the styles polishment (what would allow me to catch them and override painting in a special giant "the opera hack")

conclusion:
if you seriously want to use operas "native" style plugin: write them a bugreport - every day.

(if i ever find the time, i'll write a small app that generates an opera style out of a bespin setup, but it would be much better, if they'd just really use Qt's widget set and implemented their pixmap style engine as a native QtStyle) - Mar 22 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

all my very good friends at the MPAA say so... oh, and you may want to throw a very descent look at the very last line of that comment...

^_^ - Mar 22 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

humm? kde forum laming again?
so: fixed in rev. 433 and many thanks as this was rather a global bug - Mar 22 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

just to let you know:
i do now catch this specific bug - w/o causing flicker everywhere else

it is however likely related to a khtml rendering bug that (in current trunk) leads to (pretty reproducable) segfaults (using any style - what's the "any" style? ;-) ) when e.g. calling www.mininova.org (disclaimer: i was /told/ so and tested. i would of course /never/ browse this evil site otherwise - "pheeew"...) - so i assume it's gonna be fixed sooner or later

(rumors say, the page is called pretty often and this bad and evil ktorrent thing (shouold imho be forbidden. FORBIDDEN!) uses khtml as well)

important note:
go, buy dvd's! now! and blurays! and cdda's! hurry! do /not/ use bittorrent. for NOTHING! it's evil and only evil is coming out!

;-P - Mar 21 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

sorry for the delay.
just upgraded kde and can assure: this is a plasma bug (happens on all panels, regardless the content. even blank ones are affected)

the reason why it happens on effect toggle is
- either the effect toggle recently triggers strut updates (an plasma feels like correcting panel sizes)
- kwin recently links the fat plasma lib to use the plasma theme on the box switch... d'oohhh! - Mar 18 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

just in case, the segfault should be replaced by some flicker in the current svn (i.e. since yesterday)

this is however afaics yet a bug in khtml and/or Qt 4.5 that cannot be workarounded and needs to be fixed - Mar 18 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

arora works "ok" with bespin, but i'll need to put some love into it ;-)

issues, seen so far:
- the tab icons/butons aren't aligned
- the default back/for etc Qt buttons look "unbespinish"
- form elements have a misinterpreted state (and probably need a color catch - this is the same in konqueror and results from a dumb "white bg, black fg, buttons == bg" mind - bespin can however be configured to provide such setup and preserve the default look) - Mar 18 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

just for the records:
khtml should be off the hook - i now get this myself after installing Qt4.5 (i think it's related to the new tab-dragability and it could be a race condition)

gonna fix this tomorrow. i really need to sleep now... :-( - Mar 15 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

yes, i know. it appears khtml lately breaks QWidget::render() (i.e. crashes if you call it to render itself offscreen) - this could considered to be a bug. unfortunately you'll have to wait for a workaround until i found the time to recompile KDE (but unfortunately i need a working system until tonight :-( - Mar 15 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by selman 10 comments

use bespin, open the config dialog (from systemsettings or start "bespin config"), enter the hacks section, check all amarok hacks, done. - Mar 13 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

yes somewhat. there's a thread about this on page 26, but i didn't get reply on the last question, so:
do you have the "sunken frame" hack for konqueror (affects all khtml) activated and in case: does the situation improves if it's off? - Mar 12 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

thanks for your efforts.

please try rev. 416 and see if it (iff) really grows "unlimited" or just plasmas "default" height - Mar 09 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

sorry for being late myself.
do you happen to have the hack checked that adds a sunken frame to konqueror?
(i couldn't trigger this crash and the backtrace seemed to be unrelated until i more or less accidently activated this and konqi became instable) - Mar 09 2009
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

not here (i trigger composite 20 times a day myself)

- which KDE version do you run?
- which plasma theme do you use
- does i happen with xbar being the only plasmoid in th bar (in particular NO systray?)
- would you mind counting pixels on resizes (i.e. how many pixels does it grow per change and is the number constant or progressive)
hint: you can use kruler, kmag or make snapshots and use krita or gimp to do this =D
- Mar 09 2009
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

it's a notable deal, that is enough... if you can figure out which konqueror setting / plugin triggers this, please drop me a note.

as for segfaulting tabs... i had hoped to have catched all of these...

can you:
1. try to get a backtrace
2. see if this might be relaetd to the flash plugin? (i.e. is there a flash video on the new or old tab)

as a temporary solution you could load new tabs in the background, but that's of course just a "workaround" - Mar 03 2009
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

sounds as if vlc is linked static? (like opera was in early qt4 versions)
so it would only support styles linked in at compile time, but no plugins
(that is: it reads you want to use some style called "bespin" looks up the /internal/ list of known styles, does not find it and select a deefault fallback)
you really need to ask the vlc guys or your distributor on this

as for the segfaulter (that seems to be available nowhere...):

please make a backtrace:
as it's no KDE app, open a terminal, type:

gdb --args [the name of the app, eg. "qutIM"]

wait until gdb is ready, type:

run

wait until it says: segfaulted, type:

bt

mail me the output (or use pastebin or whatever, please no backtrace postst here, thanks) - Mar 02 2009