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Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by thomas12777 285 comments

> if i change the alignment in the settings, plasma (or whatever happens during a logout/login procedure) needs to be restarted.

To gain what?
I.e. this should _never_ be necessary.
Does the clock appear on the "wrong" screen? - Mar 30 2010
BeClock

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by thomas12777 285 comments

Ummm - i think i forgot to push the file when updating, i'm terribly sorry.

The proper version is named and says "0.7" - Mar 29 2010
BeClock

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by thomas12777 285 comments

ok, please check whether 0.7 works for you. - Mar 29 2010
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Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by thomas12777 285 comments

sorry, i must confess that i never thought about (dynamic) multiscreen situations.

ultimately you rather need a layouting that works by an anchor and padding (i.e. 20,20 from bottom left corner) - Mar 28 2010
BeShadowed

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by thomas12777 75 comments

actually the feature to not "draw behind windows" makes most sense regarding decorations painting their own shadows (like oxygen) as the decoration (at least atm) cannot do that by design.

i however wonder what you experience, the only case i could think of would be that the oxygen widget style meanwhile paints argb popups + shadows (not tried the trunk version for some time) in which case there should no be any external shadows either.

as this will need some more precise checking of the popup shadowing condition, i'd really appreciate to see a screenshot for fast inspection ;-) - Mar 26 2010
BeShadowed

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yupp - apparently the _KDE_SHADOW_OVERRIDE property type was actually supposed (what makes it hard to set via xprop)

i'll add support for both property types ;-) - Mar 24 2010
BeShadowed

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by thomas12777 75 comments

humm?
the shadows are not applied to normal windows if you use the oxygen decoration.

do you mean on popups?
(can you make a screenshot?) - Mar 24 2010
BeShadowed

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nope - aurorae, oxygen, i think chromi (and qtcurve optionally) paint their own shadows.

thus they're ignored to avoid conflicts (there's a flag on the decoration) - Mar 24 2010
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

... just installed 3.2.0 from arch - toobars work ok (there's a slight flicker when hovering a button) - menubar uses the wrong (buttontext) text color, but that's no big deal (so do unhovered buttons)
there's also a problem with the treeview indicators, but all in all i'm quite positively surprised ;-)

(you can align the decoration color from kwin, bespin has a ruleset)

i'm gonna check what can be done on the colors, but the toolbar seems fixed - Mar 22 2010
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

ok, whatever does the styling on OOo sends the entire toolbar rect instead of the handle rect, i'll install OOo... and seek for a workaround (aka blacklist...) - Mar 22 2010
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

those circles look like a giant version of the splitter or dock indicators (just in wrong direction) if you compile bespin yourself, you could add an immediate return to drawDockHandle() in docks.cpp (and maybe drawToolBarHandle() in toolbars.cpp, best one by one to bisect.

if not, i'll have to install OOo :-( - Mar 21 2010
Bespin

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great to hear. though i catched myself liking the idea that Qt works around a bug in bespin.... they probably just fixed creator or QtGui :D

Ps: i think we fucked the board with this thread ;-) - Mar 20 2010
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1. yupp, the taskbar has been kicked in favour of an (xml) customizable menu - there are some demo files in the xbar <strike>folder</strike> node, but i need to provide better "first run" support :-\

2. OOo has Qt4 styling support now? (i don't use OOo at all, so aside i need to figure how they support Qt4 skinning (OOo used to have it's own UI classes, emulating gtk and later on Qt3) screenshots for previsioning would be nice ;-)
However, this is an emulated UI (maybe even wrapped through gtk-qt) so this _might_ not fix at all :-( - Mar 20 2010
BeShadowed

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by thomas12777 75 comments

good news: i fixed the painting
bad news: with your setup, tiny windows won't cast a "visible" shadow at all (due to the high fuzzy degree, as only the other area is painted)

we'll have to see how to deal with this (e.g. either adjust size or opacity to the window size...) - Mar 19 2010
BeShadowed

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not crazy, nicely lifted ;-)

i can confirm the issue, but no: it's unfortunately not that trivial :-(

with the current painting the shadow size of the entire window needs to be twice as big as the fuzzyness, or you get shaped borders - this is neither what the code thinks when it transforms the damage region, nor what you configured.

i'll try to fix the painting, so that you can have heavily fuzzy shadows on tiny windows w/o freaking around with the shadow size :) - Mar 19 2010
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the code derives from the 4.4 plugin, 4.3 support is not guaranteed

i could workaround this particular issue by either feature restriction or performance cost, but that does not guarantee it works with 4.3 then :-(

(i recommand to update KDE, but given the quality of the original plugin, tell me if you really, really, really need 4.3 support :) - Mar 18 2010
BeShadowed

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"ambilight (tm)" should not be _that_ expensive at all (perfect parallel O(n) for a "minor" outer region, like 2*w*h*16, to scan average colors in arbitrary blocksizes and then paint blending vertices), but:

this is designed for the pretty specific "bright content in dark surrounding" case, i.e. you need:
a) a dark wallpaper
b) a dark window frame
c) bright content for active windows
d) dimming for inactive windows

-> it's more topic for a specific "show-off" effect (as the majority of users would never use such setup, no matter what cool it looks like ;-) - Mar 16 2010
BeShadowed

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by thomas12777 75 comments

yes, makes sense for esp. dark setups where the "shadow" is more kind of a "halo" ;-) - Mar 15 2010
BeClock

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by thomas12777 285 comments

to my deepest shame: yes :) - Mar 15 2010
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

regarding amarok:
please compile bespin in debug mode (or at least not "Release" mode) as in case it's involved in the amarok crash at all, there's no debug information in the backtrace.

do not compile the amarok hacks, they can't be used anymore anyway.

also, they should meanwhile be removed, therefore i wonder which revision you're currently on (i.e. do "svn up")

regarding compiz:
well, works for me (except that kde4-window-decorator doesn't paint shadows)

i don't use kmess.
does the cpu load occur in the kmess process or in X11? - Mar 14 2010
Chopper simple

KDM4 Themes by starwolf 2 comments

are you sure that OCC (that's an OCC chopper, isn't?) release their stuff under some open license? - Mar 09 2010
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

kdevelop is explicitly blacklisted as the menubar contains a tabbar and using custom widgets via a dbus protocol is hardly possible (you'd need to care about the widgets geometry, visibility and _all_ input events as the app internally may rely on e.g. hover states)

i however need to fix the tab display ;-) - Mar 05 2010
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/home/andrea/cloudcity/build/kwin/../../kwin/client.h:31:25: error: kdecoration.h: No such file or /home/andrea/cloudcity/build/kwin/../../kwin/factory.h:33:32: error: kdecorationfactory.h: No such file

the headers should be part of kdebase-dev or kdebase-worspace-dev
(and i set me a note for tomorrow to add a custom check to the cmake file... :) - Mar 04 2010
Bespin

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simply uncheck the toolbar as well - as result only the menubar will be affected (as mentioned, that's a bit obscure, i know...) - Mar 03 2010
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> Although i just wish your bespin work would be more into the open.

Hein? Is there any request in this...?

I can however _not_ take credits on daisy, i'm not even using plasma =D
As for the icons, many credits have to go to TheRob and David Correa Vanegas, who fabricated and worked on many most of them.

> Again thanks, you made my week
Always a preasure, i'll see what i can do for next week then ;-) - Mar 03 2010
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

sorry for the delay.

the segfault seems to derive from the menubar still receiving dbus signals while being deleted.

as soon as i go for the next "i fix plasmoids" session, i'll disable the taskbar default anyway in favor of an xml configurable custom menu.

any news on creator? ;-) - Mar 03 2010
Bespin

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i more or less silently deleted the amarok hacks (no more functional anyway) - but apparently forgot the config part, sorry :-\

so either update to rev. 1034 or disable the amarok hacks via ccmake - Mar 03 2010
Bespin

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it's still there, but moved.
open the window page, and enter the UNO section (that is what apple does with the top areas of their windows)
check "combined head..." but exclude toolbars and title (uncheck them)
as result only the menubar will be affected

i admit that this is somewhat obscure, sorry.
i'll seek to add a complementary option to the menu page. - Mar 03 2010
PanelShadows

Plasma 4 Extensions by thomas12777 24 comments

errr... i assume you refer to the menubar - XBar, part of bespin (and only works with either bespin or iirc qtcurve) - Mar 03 2010
Bespin

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regarding QtCreator:
any chance you've conflicting plugin libs in _some_ $PATH?

regarding XBar:
looks like a double free in the deconstructor.
i'll try to signal the apps before deleting/nulling things. i doub't that's it, though, so a bt would be nice, yes ;-) - Feb 25 2010
Bespin

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:-\
At least it does not happen by a direct bespin call then... (it's more the project explorer)

You can make the binary QtCreator using system wide Qt by moving the Qt libs shipped with it out of the way (and iirc there's even a setting which Qt to use)

I've not been using plasma for a long time, therefore the plasmoids might be outdated and cause trouble (i promised to look into this this month - hopefully will... but plasma is such a hog :-(

Stupid question - it's the creator that segfaults (runs ok, here. archlinux, system Qt) not plasma or so - is it?

Does it crash instantly or do you have to trigger it somehow? (open a file etc., it would be easier if i can make it crash here) - Feb 24 2010
Bespin

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>tab animations (animated transition) are already disabled

humm... a better backtrace would be good then (esp. don't compile bespin with release flags) as the posted snippet contains no ref. to the bespin lib... (i'll somewhen install qtcreator to test general functionality)

> When using the qt designer in combination with xbar...

Actually I used to rule them out, but the desiner detection lately fails (different or rather no appname) -> is fixed ;-) - Feb 23 2010
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

iff, then it's (probably) related to tab animation, try to switch that off.

are you using Qt packed with QtCreator or the system libraries? - Feb 22 2010
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

well... there is, has always been - just no UI to configure.

~/.config/Bespin/XBar.conf
[XBar]
ShowTaskbar=false - Feb 20 2010
BeClock

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by thomas12777 285 comments

errrrmmm... you want a plasmoid?! ;-)

the point about this clock is that it is always visible.

if you just like the look, you should transform it into a plasmoid, esp. as this will not require WM composition. - Feb 16 2010
BeClock

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by thomas12777 285 comments

Sorry to say, but that is entirely impossible :-(

Even iff kwin would (listen to and) propagate all global kbd events to it's plugins (what's likely not gonna happen) - the information about the cursor position (i.e. where're the kbd event is visually handled) is entirely app internal (one could determine the window at best)

I'm sorry but you'll have to find another solution to this. - Feb 08 2010
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

bespin config
-> Buttons/Toolbuttons
-> Disabled look

Picking the first item will likely result in different appearances of KDE and Qt apps (unless you're using KDE4 icons by DE support in latter Qt4.6)
The second item applies the "original" Qt desaturation to all apps.

There's currently no option for the disabled text, because etching (like in the windows stye) or dithering (like the CDE style) both look awefull and just fading (oxygen) doesn't seel the "disabled" enough...

If you can mock a better alternative, i'm gonna include it ;-) - Feb 06 2010
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errr... imagemagick is a scriptable (only) image editor.
To do a vector icon (w/o the halo) use inkscape. The glow is automatically applied by the icon generating script. - Feb 04 2010
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to uninstall, configure, then run
sudo make uninstall

if there's any detailed output, it's likely in ~/.xsession-errors (but there's probably a lot of stuff in it...)

can you activate it with the other backend?
(xrender ./. opengl)

it's btw. not necessary to restart KDE or even your computer.
running "kwin --replace" is sufficient =)
(when running from a terminal, you want to use "kwin --replace &") - Feb 03 2010
BeClock

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by thomas12777 285 comments

no big deal -> 0.6 ;-) - Feb 02 2010
Bespin

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if you made the icon and have an svg ;-)

(the halo is done via imagemagick: copy, gaussian blur, tint) - Feb 02 2010
Bespin

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du kannst es z.b. in ~/.xprofile eintragen (für deinen account) oder (je nach distro) in /etc/profile.local (kann auch einen datei in /etc/profile.d/ sein)

alternativ läßt es sich auch über
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "false"
in /etc/X11/xorg.conf kontrollieren (möglicherweise hat das bespin package das im post-install gesetzt. ich jedenfalls nicht ;-)

aber obacht:
tranparenz in e.g. konsole ist damit auch zum teufel (andernfalls kannst du mit "XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=0 konsole" die globale variable überschreiben) - Jan 31 2010
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

nönö - bespin sollte bei der installation bitte nicht an irgendwelchen Qt einstellungen rumpfuschen (the presets verändern das farbschema, das hat aber keinen einfluß) wenn doch, ist das was faul an dem package, das du installiert hast.

Du könntest versuchen per
XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 smplayer
den ARGB support sicher zu deaktivieren bevor smplayer startet - Jan 31 2010
Bespin

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dann dürfte es doch an Qt hängen (das vermutlich aus irgend einem grund ARGB visuals benutzt *shrug*)
Qt 4.6? - Jan 31 2010
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

several apps store icons in external places (ff for one) and set those on the window (as property) from where apparently the taskbar preferably takes them (this should be a bug in the taskbar lib code)

for ff it's usually "/usr/share/pixmaps/firefox.png" and you should be able to override it in your local "~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxx.profile/" directory - Jan 31 2010
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

gtk+ benutzt offensichtlich QtCurve, die menüleiste kommt von da ;-)

was die videos angeht: das ist ein X11/Treiber bug (welche GPU/treiber benutzt du?)

zum testen kannst du ganz unverdächtig den nackten mplayer benutzen

mplayer -vo xv video.avi
mplayer -vo gl2 video.avi
mplayer -vo sdl video.avi
mplayer -vo x11 video.avi
mplayer -vo xover video.avi
mplayer -vo vdpau video.avi

mplayer -vo help liefert dir alle unterstützten ausgabemodule. xv scheint im zshg. mit composite nicht zu funktionieren, das hat aber nichts mit dem verw. toolkit oder gar UI stil zu tun, sondern ist schlicht ein bug im treiber. - Jan 31 2010
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1663 comments

das hat vermutlich nichts mit bespin zu tun (zumal es jetzt ja komplett weg ist und keinerlei einfluß mehr hat und ohne aktiviertes ARGB in der hinsicht ohnehin unverdächtig ist)

sieht mehr nach 'nem phonon problem aus.
-> schon mal smplayer/vlc versucht? (mit oder ohne bespin, beide benutzen Qt4, aber kein phonon)

eine andere möglichkeit wäre ein problem mit dem renderbackend.
versuch 'mal "dragon -graphicssystem native" - Jan 31 2010
Bespin

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it's using QtCurve.

Either your PyQt + AcetonISO are shipped with a statically linked version of Qt (including QtCurve but not allowing native plugins to beloaded) or they forcefully load a specific style plugin (based on an internal setting, e.g. smplayer supports to select a specific UI style)

I guess you'll have to ask your distro about this, sorry :-(

For at least acetoniso, you should be able to select a style via the commandline (this works for every qt application)

acetoniso -style bespin

If this still fails and to inspect the used libraries, use

ldd `which acetoniso` | grep -i qt

(those are accents, not single-quotes, and the direction of the is important ;-) - Jan 30 2010
Bespin

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> Sorry for my English=(
Nevermind - as long as we come to a solution it's been sufficient ;-)

I just tried acetoniso2 - it's normally styled (and apparently no python...) so I tried eric (PyQt) and it uses bespin tabs as well.

Is bespin used by your app at all (i.e. do the other widgets look bespin-a-like)?
Can you maybe upload a screenshot?

What bespin version do you use (recent svn, binary shipped with your distro, etc.)? - Jan 29 2010
Bespin

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Errr... what? ;-)

What exactly are you trying to do? (Maybe you've a shot of what you have and a mock of where you want to be) - Jan 29 2010