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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

kdebase/workspace/ksplash/README
and
kdebase/workspace/ksplash/ksplashx/README

are the only docs i'm aware off (nom fancy html ;-)

you can however just send me the generated description.txt so i can inspect it myself (we want to suppose it's my job to fix it ;-) - Oct 02 2009
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maybe (but independent for the output)
i use some arithmetic statement in the script but used #!/bin/sh, while sh is not necessarily bash and i'm unsure whether dash etc. can handle this.

please try r678 - Oct 01 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

the script is pretty dumb, you need to call it by
./generate.sh <width> <height>
e.g.
./generate.sh 1920 1200

and copy the wholy dir (not only the 1920x1200) result to ~/.kde/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/Bespin
(or you can simply make a symlink)

what is the ksplashx output when testing? - Sep 30 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

yes.
usually it's sufficient to enter the build directory and call "make && sudo make install"
(cmake will know whether it has to update the configuration and what parts of the code needs to be recompiled/linked)

Just prevent messing up between the qmake and the cmake building (i.e. do /not/ call qmake in the source directory if you're using cmake) - Sep 29 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

the last update was round about 5 hours ago ;-)
(apparently current KDE trunk does no more epoxrt the DESKTOP_SESSION environment for detection...)

i've so far not made a single tarball release (and i doubt i ever will), the distros pick the code from svn every now and then (afaik ubuntu pretty seldom, suse pretty often but there must be something like ppa for ubuntu that might have more frequent updates?)

so if your distro lags updates, you'll unfortunately have to pull the code from svn and compile yourself* (or find an alternative repositry), but i watch KDE changes pretty tight to ensure bespin doesn't drop behind.

*if your used to compiling tarballs, the svn part won't hurt you:
svn co https://cloudcity.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cloudcity

you get an uncompressed tarball, the ./configure script is (at best) just a wrapper for cmake and an "svn up" every now and then keeps you up to date. - Sep 27 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

w/o having the bespin style in the window (maybe through gtk-qt, i iirc qtk-kde is just a kcmdialog to select the gtk theme?) i know virtually nothing about the look of the managed window (and w/o dirty local machine and linux-only tricks i cannot even figure whether the app uses gtk+ at all)

For such windows, the bespin deco simply respects the kde-color scheme.
you can call the module directly by
"kcmshell colors" and look for the titlebar colors, latter bespin svn revs. don't paint a splitting line if the deco gradient is "none" so you can have a seamless transition here as well.

There's also code for using vertical/horizontal gradients on such windows (originially done for windows not using the native graphicssystem but opengl or raster)

I'll try to allow configuration on a regexp list (similar to the style presets) - the biggest issue about this is to not mess up the deco config dialog even more :-( - Sep 19 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

are you sure that you're running the gtk-qt engine?
(please notice that presets can and could not be bound to gtk+ apps with the vanilla gtk-qt engine) - Sep 19 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

i adjusted the way to set deco hints, please try r620 - Sep 19 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

wasn't to expect for gtk+
(esp. not if you're not using the gtk-qt style for gtk+ apps)

which Qt app in particular? - Sep 18 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

as for the gtk+ apps (firefox, thunderbird):
the colors etc. can only be mapped in case you're using the gtk-qt gtk engine.

however:
i changed sth. about picking windows to export the style settings for the deco... for... (caused segfaults on non native X11 environments, e.g. the raster engine)

please run the app in quest from konsole (or any other textshell) and look for lines like:
BESPIN: Not exporting decoration hints for KVBox(0x8d6ff28)
(in case of massive (tm) output, grep for BESPIN) - Sep 16 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

just committed, rev. 598 will respect the "kcmshell4 fonts" menu font (the global one you can set in systemsettings)

there might be glitches for /some/ windows on changing it (as the plasmoid is no menubar)
in this case you can use the macmenu [on|off] script to toggle the XBar usage off/on for this window (what should fix the glitch) - Sep 14 2009
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... for?
(sorry but just "I'm gonna miss..." is not a helpful statement) - Sep 07 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

the configure script is merely a wrapper around cmake
to configure by hand:
- make a subdir "build" and enter it
- call ccmake ..
- enter the proper prefix (likely where KDE is installed)
- press 'c' to configure
- wait for errors
- press 't' to toggle advanced mode
- adjust missing paths (headers etc.) by hand (the phonon headers are likely not found it /should/ be ok to direct them to any existing files - no part of KDE should include them at all
- press 'c' again, then 'g' (to generate the makefiles), the 'q'
- call "make && sudo make install"
- if there're no compiler errors, be happy ;-) - Sep 07 2009
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/home/carl/cloudcity/build/kwin/../../kwin/client.h:31:25: error: kdecoration.h: No such file or directory
/home/carl/cloudcity/build/kwin/../../kwin/factory.h:32:32: error: kdecorationfactory.h: No such file or directory

they come in kdebase-dev (or kdebase-workspace-dev) - Sep 02 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

you might have a moc file from a qmake build attempt in the way then.

first:
grep argbSupport cloudcity/config/config.ui

if the output is not empty, the file is ok.
then
ls cloudcity/config/ui_config.h

if there's a file, it's from a build in the source dir (either by qmake or a "mis" configured cmake run)

you'll have to get rid of all such files - the easiest way in this case would be to delete the sources and "svn co" a clean tree (if there's a Makefile in the sourcedir that's agood hint for such build attempt and "make distclean" in the sourcedir should do as well) - Aug 29 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

delete "cloudcity/build/config/ui_config.h"
then continue "make"

this file is automatically generated from the .ui xml file. usually cmake is supposed to notice that it's outdated and replace it.

however, this is the second reported incidence in this regard (though the other one was not on this particular element)

Might be there's a buggy cmake variant around.
Could you please post the "cmake --version" to help me keeping track on this?
Thanks. - Aug 29 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

bug, this should only happen if you use the experimental ARGB feature, sorry :-(

fixed in 562 - Aug 28 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

Use a more recent version of bespin (i.e. svn, current is rev. 533 - there's still no tarball ;-P

The described bug was fixed pretty long time ago. - Aug 17 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

can you please try in konsole
(this is one line)
strace bespin config 2>&1 | grep -C5 Store.conf > ~/bespin.strace

try to import /one/ preset (strace is very noisy ;-), "bzip2 ~/bespin.strace" and mail me the file for inspection? - Jul 31 2009
KFresh pack (bespin + colors + wall)

Be-Shell/Bespin by PoL666 4 comments

nope, the cut off is from the deco (which is apparently nitrogen?) - though bespin has a very similar feature

other stuff:
the disabled icons can meanwhile be blurred, Qt style desaturated or honor KDE icon settings -for KDE apps-

the "dots" in the toolbar hint that the toolbar isn't locked (i.e. can be dragged around) -> rmb -> "lock toolbars"

folder icons are non of my business, the dockwidgets icons follow the bespin deco (and where created to break with any "x_O-+" from Win or Mac and -scanning his comments...- didi85 is likely a troll ;-P - Jul 31 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

~/.config/Bespin/Store.conf
check whether it's a regular file (and not e.g. a symlink pointing nowhere) and you've read/write permissions - Jul 30 2009
Idea: Save Amarok 1.4

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by stalin2000 28 comments

afaik tagging will rely on nepomuk - once it's done =P

at least trunk supports multilevel playlist sorting (e.g. artist -> album -> track number -> title)

unfortunately i cannot say anything about that mix cover thing - doesn't impact my musical taste, i guess (and i seriously more or less give a sh... on covers as well ;-)

i agree that repeat/shuffle togglers would make a lot of sense in the bar below the playlist or the player area - i'll try to convince someone =D - Jul 26 2009
Idea: Save Amarok 1.4

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by stalin2000 28 comments

- playlist layout is more flexible then in 1.4 - and still improving
- you can relayout the UI including getting rid of the plasma view in the center
- lacking visualization is a lack in ponon and to be fixed by a GSoC project (hopefully...)
- lousy treeview speed is a general issue in the Oxygen style inherited from the /windows/ Qt style...
- thanks to lubos, libplasma doesn't increase the RAM usage of an app by ~10 megs on nvidia systems anymore
- remains the debatable semi-skinnable svg theme - well, seems mark changed his mind on the flexible layout, thus this will likely vanish as well ;-P

any specific reason to keep amarok 1.4?

<advert>meanwhile, why not try bespin to hack amarok?</advert> - Jul 26 2009
World Map - Upside Down

Wallpaper Other by vladstudio 1 comment

... makes me feel unimportant - good to know that =D

i have btw. your inverted map as well - are you really telling you could not reuse some elements? ;-)

(this map motive is however better by at least a magnitude) - Jul 17 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

the screenshot is extremely outdated ;-)

to alter the look type "bespin" into krunner or a konsole (or trigger the config dialog from kstyle settings)

there's also a bunch of presets you can import - Jul 15 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

ok, 1st off you can simply ignore the .colors file in the pack (unless there's sth. special about the KDE color extensions like "active/positive/neutral/nagativ text") - bespin stores and handles colors with the presets

next,
- import & load the preset (or "bespin update Bespin_Animated.bespin" to replace the former import)
- open the bespin config dialog ("bespin config")
- enter the "Menus" page
- in the "POPUPS" area select "Window Text" instead "Highlight"
-> apps started FROM NOW ON will have "black" popups - Jul 11 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

:-?
they're "black" (window text) by default.

please store your config as preset, export it and /mail/ it to me for a review. - Jul 11 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

maximize buttons are fixed in rev. 514, thanks for the reports - Jul 07 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

nope, maximize button is a bug (structural, gonna fix that later this day)
shade -> on all windows is a stupid c'n'p bug (fixed in rev. 513) - Jul 07 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

you'll need the X11-dev package and want the XRender-dev package as well.
also make sure you've kdelibs-dev and kdebase-dev - Jul 07 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

if you want to compile with full KDE support (windeco etc.) you'll need to install cmake.

you'll also need the -dev packages for
- Qt
- X11
anyway
--
- kdelibs
- kdebase
- plasma (if not included in kdebase)
if you want to compile w/ all kde features

be aware that ubuntu seems to have a weird versioning system where kdelibs5 is kdelibs for kde4 or so :S - Jul 03 2009
Plasma Emerald Theme Generator

Compiz Themes by hurricanek 12 comments

... this time even in a headline.

Sorry, but whenever i see others doing this typo i know:
"it's not your fault. it's not your fault. it's ..."

=D - Jun 14 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

"error: kdecoration.h: No such file or error: kdecorationfactory.h: No such file or "

bitcrazy's right. these headers ought to be part of kdebase-dev (in most distros) - Jun 01 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

apparently later KDE versions adjusted the coloring of this box (or the default good/bad/neutral colors - neutral /text/ used to be yellow - so much for this sense...) to be more decent (what bespin did before because it was far too RED and GREEN yelling into your eyes.

now r473 will just use the color passed down to the style (except when using a dark text background, then you get some extra light so you don't end up being nearly black) i.e. you'll get the same colors as in e.g. oxygen or plastique - thy /are/ that dim/pastel now. period. mourn at bugs.kde.org if you don't like ;-)

(the only difference is the sunken gradient on not focused lineedits - it makes everthing a little pale, why i didn't apply the dimming there in the first place. given you're not much interested in "errors" while not typing anyway, i guess that's "ok" - May 18 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

counterproof:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2926/designeropenc.png

i don't however know how you run qt-designer. in case it unsets the KDE session environement var or or removes the kdialog location from $PATH it will fail
also i never tested from within a designer "show form" session

if you're interested in why it fails on your side:
$bespin_src_dir/filedialog.cpp contains everything related, you could add some debug output there ;-) - May 13 2009
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there's ever been any tarball, but i commit 1 to 10 changes to svn every week ;-) - May 12 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

already supported (forgot since which rev.), however:

the calling app needs to use the QFileDialog static functions (with QtCurve or Bespin, there's no sane way to override member function usage)

as i don't link KDE libraries, i invoke kdialog which in consequence must be accessible somewhere in your binary PATH (if you can open konsole, type "kdialog --getopenfilename ~ *" and get a file open dialog, it should work) - May 12 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

there's nothing preventing you from using 64bit libs, which version is used depends on your cmake setup/ldpath order, you can either change the order in /etc/ld.so.conf, export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib64:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH before running cmake, i think cmake has some config entries for this as well or you can just select the library/header paths by entering the builddir, calling ccmake, pressing "t", looking for and adjusting the variables

that's however not a bespin thing ;-P - May 11 2009
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f***, forgot: hopefully fixed in rev. 467 ;-) - May 09 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

thanks for the note (it's weird, though KDM even segfaults if you try to query the commnadline args...)

about firefox:
it uses XUL (an xml toolkit), /emulating/ GTK+ (while XUL relies on GTK+...) which is then passed through gtk-qt (a qt emulation style for gtk) - "glitches" are unavoidable and beyond my scope

(this simply won't fix as firefox has hard assumptions on the gtk style, which gtk-qt does and probably just cannot match. the artefacts appear with all qt styles and for a usable painting i'd need to write an entirely different - more traditional - tabbar look.
yes: this SUCKS!) :-( - May 09 2009
several Service-menues

Dolphin Service Menus by dan-linux 18 comments

Esperanto has a hen/egg problem. as it has no (naturally) grown base, there's no notable content, thus nobody wants to learn it and therefore nobody will create (especially not exclusive) content using it...

The language itself has many advances (besides the fairness aspect) but the approach to spread it was (and therefore still is) broken (because it doesn't take human nature into account - logic and a nice dream has exactly no chance against laziness and national pride, just think of the language watching French...)

Linux is btw, not entirely "weak". It has become a major player on servers long time ago.
Regarding Desktops, i'd mostly blame Microsoft's pre-installation pacts & MS-Office.
Most users wouldn't even bother to update their virus signatures...(and of course would not have to...), so they'll certainly not install another OS.
Companies got tied to the Office documents (OOo Calc can still not handle most -weird- VBA scripts) - May 08 2009
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Dolphin Service Menus by dan-linux 18 comments

sorry, but that argument is somewhere between dumb and ridiculous.

First:
you /are/ free to start/use a native forum/stuff base, no problem. Just here Frank asked to please speak english to access a wide user range and users agreed (or just left)

Next:
/every/ social group has requirements to enable it's functionality. one is a common language that allows members to interact. (there's a pretty famous -legendary- example on this, i think it was about some tower... ;-P

w/o that, sth. like a GNU/Linux desktop would just not exist. period.
the core oxygen icon team had a portuguese, an italian, and two native english speakers (one living in germany) -> the oxygen project would have initially stumbled and failed on the language matter)

english was (implicitly) chosen for historic reasons, because it's a pretty simple language and (in many regions of the world) understood at least as second language. (maybe it doesn't fit a schiller-like word composition, but this is not about -subjective- beauty, but just functionality)

The /only/ language that (if their internet users/population ratio grows to western standards) had a good reason to demand a higher position than english was (as mentioned) mandarin - i wish you much fun with your studies then...
(it's btw. a nice language, just totally strange and works pretty crap with keyboards...)

And before you bring it up:
esperanto was a nice and pretty fair try, but has so far failed - suck it, sorry :-(
Languages apparently just don't develop by artificial imposition, blame hollywood if you want, but it won't change things... ;-P - May 08 2009
several Service-menues

Dolphin Service Menus by dan-linux 18 comments

doch, kann ich noch (yes i do...)

thing's just that kde-* policies say to please talk english - whether broken or not. this holds for descriptions and comments and as long as we don't all learn mandarin the preferred way to not exclude most users - imagine people would start posting stuff in Indian or Hebrew, Greek, ... wahhhh ;-)

(kde-* was btw started by a german as well, including the "english please" policy) - May 07 2009
several Service-menues

Dolphin Service Menus by dan-linux 18 comments

...statement requesting english comments... tststs.

Various service menu entries to convert videos and soundfiles, normalize mp3 tunes and set GRUB messages (bootscreens where you select the kernel/OS to boot)

last will afa/I/k not work with all currently used GRUB versions - May 07 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

thanks, try rev. 465 then... ;-P - May 05 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

i hate includechains...
(i.e. the relevant headers get included by others here, dunno why this fails on other environments, but this happens)...

try rev.462, and thanks for reporting

(this is btw, my personal approach to the recent "let us tile windows" mourns, you can (ctrl+) wheel the maximize button to have the window grow in 1/6 of the desktop (height) width (thought to complement KWin's snapping feature) - May 05 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

disabled icon type combobox occur every now and then. that's not just a visual thing. it's really disabled and that's not a style issue. (happens with all other styles as well)

the combobox dropdown width is another thing.
usually i don't want it to cover the "arrow" region but obviously this fails for "make me uselessly narrow" combos with scrollable dropdowns.

i tried sth. "smarter" but the core problem is the fixed combobox with :-(

(UI wise, the dropdown should not even exceed the combobox text area and especially not the whole box) - Apr 23 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

ok, should be fixed in rev. 452

this doe NOT fixed the "weired" disaligned look etc. that's a gwenview problem -> file a bugreport there - Apr 22 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

yes, relies on a pretty recent change (< 1 1/2 weeks or so)
i figured the source of the problem and will look for a solution (the gwenview handcrafted tabbar heavily relies on the assumption that it runs in "document" mode, what's ok, as gwenview set it like this, but the document mode interferes with the bespin tabbars that more or less keep all tabbars in a pseudo document mode)

i hotfixed that for konqueror and so, but obviously i'll have to find a cleaner solution :-( - Apr 22 2009
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Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

Works for me.

However there was recently some mumbojumbo around tabs (Qt introduced a new variant, devs started to replace former "hacks" and i ran after them ;-)
which bespin version, Qt version and KDE version (precisely, "svn info") do you use?

especially try the latest bespin rev. as i broke tabs for kde 4.2 for one or two revisions when aligning the code to kde 4.3 :-( - Apr 21 2009