Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

the line is corrected (see above)
could you please specify which widgets you mean in particular? (thx) - Nov 08 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

This it is!
You just cannot do anything about the way qt resizes.
So everything is just redrawn completely (while it would be enough to redraw only new thigs if the widget isn't rescaled)
Qt handles this internal. - Nov 08 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

Thanks for all the complements - i'm really moved... - Nov 08 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

This happens due to the look&feel.
First: mosfet uses the button widget for 1. the buttons, 2. combos, 3. editable combos.
Writing a whole button for editable combos is not very smart. (i'll try to change this by faking the upper and lower lines)
Second:
If you take a closer look at keramik's combos, you'll see that they they are like the editable ones, but with completely highlighted text (they do only switch if you select an item). Plastik's combos (at all resoect to the plastik coder) do flicker as well (but the effect isn't that heavy, probably due to the 'flat' look). Currently, I don't see any way to keep the look&feel of the combos + removing the flicker effect (besides qt will allow us to define the resize process, so that we don't have to repaint the whole widget on resizing) - Nov 08 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

1. qt only draws rectangular buttons - this way, you have to fill the rest with something.
As most buttons resist on a panel as parent, mosfet used the panel background (stippled or plain) for this.
If you know an existing applic (the color dialog isn't that important, i think), that draws buttons somewhere else, i'll try to catch that (must know what kind of widget the background is)
I CANNOT set the background to the parents background as for this, every button would have to be created itself (currently the button tiles are generated once, and then used for all buttons - this is obviously MUCH faster and the advance of this style over "pixmap scalers" that have to recalc each and every widget as most are not of equal size)
About the white areas around the widgets on the color dialog screenshot: this just doesn't occur on my machine.
I do not know why thiss happens - maybe you'll have to activate qt's alphablending to make this work correctly (looks terrible)
2. hehe, stupid error. i wrote '-' instead of a '+' (i swear, i did exactly the same in a math test in school times (long ago) and created an unsolvable task...) well, this time the result is, compared to then, really harmless. FIXED

About the stipple mismatch. This happens, if the applic designer did not use the qt grid.
I SUGGEST TO ALWAYS USE THE GRID!!! (it should allow qt to handle the applic with less ram use, as it reduces the widgets positioning resolution to 1/16. not sure if qt takes advance out of this, but i guess it does...)
however, this can be fixed, by gathering the widgets geometry relative to its parent (for each widget) and then shift the brush (each widget can/must have it's own brush).
but...
this is horrible slow - therefore maybe i'll add an option to do this, but i'll never force the user to use it.

Scrollbars:
Yupp, there's a shadow (the will or may be configurable). However it overdraws the upper part of the groove - not the lower. Maybe the slider should also be longer to the south, we'll see. (i'll play around with that)
OK, just saw what ou mean (on your screenshot). Try clicking into the screenshot and see. (this shouldn't affect common apps)

Focus (hope, i understood, what you mean):
I guess, you're using the same color for background and active buttons (redmond 2000 ?!) - otherwise, buttons are highlighted on mouseover or selected via tab (+ pressed down), combos are highlighted on mouseover and when pressed, editframes have a button colored rectangle around them and of course selected tabs are highlighted. same for checkboxes, radiobuttons, etc)
Of course, THIS LOOKS CRAP! ;-) I suggest to play around with your color scheme a bit. (e.g. set buttons a bit lighter or darker than the background - will only affect active buttons)
OK, it would be an option to draw dashed (windows like) lines around the label of a seleted item. If you really want this, you can have it as an option when my own config dialog is finished. (But sorry, this is very much ms style *ggg* and not as helpful as really highlighted buttons - even the build in reduced windows style doesn't do that)

Checks and Combos:
Did you mean to the right? (rather than to the left) However - this is not trivial to flag (especially not for the combos) so maybe i'll make a vote on this.
The combos harsh look results from the fact, they're usig the same widget as the buttons + a line on every side. i'll see if i can heal this by drawing two (or more) fading lines. However, I want to keep the same widget to keep the style as lean as possible...

Checkbox:
True. Fixed. - Nov 08 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

That's right.
Baghira is german spelling for Bagheera - the Panther from the Jungle Book (Kipling, but Disney is probably more popular) and (i do think) this way the indish word for "Panther"... - Nov 07 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

i'm not running any kind of distri (allthough i started with a debian system - long time ago)- so i cannot make any binary releases for a specific distribution (maybe some other user could relase a precompiled binary)
however, try "aclocal" before configure and make (could help) - Nov 07 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

is already planned/implemented in my working version - however, i'm still clicking a kcmdialog ;-) - Nov 07 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

Nope.
As I posted, this email is dead for a long time (thank the spam ******* for that)
Please post it on the forum.
(sorry) - Nov 07 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

The Windeco on the screenshot is not based on mosfets code, but something i wrote some time ago - i do know that it's absolutely not perfect.
However, as the kwin api is said to be changed with kde 3.2, i will make a new (better) one when kde 3.2 is finally out (allthough the api is probably fixed, i do not run 3.2 and so i couldn't test)
I'm sorry for this, but i'm not gonna work on a very overhaded windeco that won't hold for the next month :-(
(btw, the windeco will then be part of Baghira) - Nov 06 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

First: thanks for the screenshots. I understand what you meant about the toolbar buttons.
Second: One final aim of Baghira is, to give the Liquid Engine a that easy interface, that anyone will be able to do is own spinoff without almost any coding abilities... - Nov 06 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

OK, you were right. Shifting text on active tabs is even rather simple to do.
Thanks, Master! ,-)
Baut what did you mean about button and comboboxes?
They allready share one Pixmap (combos just don't display all of it) - Nov 06 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

OK, I'll take a closer look, how to shift active tab texts - however i'm still using qt 3.1.x (as 3.2 produces errors with kde 3.1.x), so maybe it depends on the qt version, as i think, i just can't query tabs about their state... (but we'll see!) :-) - Nov 05 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

I implemented the triangles cause it's OS X standard.
However i agree, the look is not perfect - currently experimenting with some pseudo-alphablending.
About the lines: You will be able to configure this in a latter release (see previous comment) - i'm currently experimenting to get feedback like yours (what you like, what not, what you'd like to see)
About the Icons: trinalgles are mac, +- is ms and the boxed triangles are CDE (i think the oldest solution, but i'm not sure...) You will at least be able to choose (independent from the lines) between triangles and +- (as a lot of people are currently switching from windows and we do not want to bother them, do we?) Anyway, you can implement every type of icon you like (complex figures just cost more cpu poewer, got it?) we'll see what will be there in the end...

Oh, I did forget: Thank you for helping me to create the cutest theme ever ;-) - Nov 04 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

Phhhh... Pohhh!
First of all, you do certainly not complain!
I do rather think, this kind of feedback is help at it's inner meaning.
To comment your mentions:
1. Yeah, that's right - allthough the text is perfectly centered it appears to be out of range (due to the shadow). FIXED!
2. I took them from a Panther Screenshot and freed them with a hard edged rubber (poor done). I now reworked them (at least on 1600x1280 it looks ok, so: hopefully) FIXED!
3. No, but yes. (Actually I can't draw outside the widgets rectangle, so I can't make them higher... but I can make the inactive ones lower (by 2px)) ;-P Unfortunately I probably can't shift the text, as it doesn't get a flag like (the text isn't active or on or down or whatever - just the widget and QTab (text's parent()) doesn't inherit QButton and so doesn't have a function to query it's state. So: partially) FIXED!
4. Seems as if mosfet wantet to prevent the tabs from overlaying their brothers - or he's just bad in counting ;-) FIXED!
5. + 6. Neither Apple's nor mosfet's checkboxes do have a shadow to the right (mosfet's even seem to have one on the left as the right side is a bit highlighted) Also on all Panther screenshots i've seen so far, buttons (and comboboxes) don't seem to have right shadows - costed me some time to understand how to remove them. So this is not a bug, but a feature *ggg* (However, panther combos are darkened on the upper right - this is missing cause i just use a Button, that is outshifted to both sides... lets see if i can find a solution for this) PENDING
7. Which version of liquid do you mean? (and could you send me (NOT to adress on this page - it's dead!!) the "embeddata.h" file, as i might be missing older liquid versions? - thanks)
8. If you mean a "on click" reaction: yes! (i first thought this wouldn't be possible - then i saw it in plastik and had the solution! i really like open source!!!) Tested with the checkboxes yet (but will also work for radiobuttons - just looks crap with these one: see question 7!) FIXED!
9. Geee...! Are you some kind of bird of prey? Superman? Running 320x240???... FIXED!
10. I thought there should be some kind of reaction. However this will certainly be configurable when i'm ready with clicking me together a config-dialog.
As you don't like it - any suggestions (beside recoloring)?

I will update the file when i'm done with some nasty bugs due to mosfet playing around with the color map... (e.g. set menu to "stippled button color"... this one is fixed, but fading in translucent menues does not look too good...) - Nov 04 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

In a nutshell:
Baghira (as liquid) is NOT a pixmap style (no pixmap scaling, on a gain of velocity) furthermore, you can do some tweaks on native styles (eg squeezing the sliders ;-)) - Nov 04 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

Hmmm... just check this out.
Here's what i figured out:
1. I do have an active checkbox (lower right edge), if i open konqueror in filemanagement profile.
2. If i uncheck this, i can't recheck it until...
3. If i split the windows, i can check and uncheck them as i want. remains checked, if i close one view.
4. if i open konq. in webbrowsing mode, there's no checkbox, however i can rightclick as if it would be there (but this works on the whole lower bar)
5. if i press F9 to get the sidebar, the checkbox is there - unchecked...
6. splitting windows again lets me check and uncheck it anyway.
7. disappears if i close the sidebar
8. AND NOW THIS IS IMPORTANT:
it's the same on every other style i have installed (qt internal, kde, plastik...)
i changed style, restarted x - to become sure no stuff lies somewhere in ram to disturb anything... no changes.

now could you please tell me
1. what this box is good for???
2. how it usually should behave? - Nov 02 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

about some seldom stuff on buttons:
allready done - wait for the next release

about the checkbox: i honestly never noticed them and also do not know, what they are good for, but actually i will check out (*ggg*) this - Nov 02 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

Thanks for the note...
could you just precise what you mean?

(e.g. which menu, and what kid of check - i'm not native english, so please be straight) - Nov 02 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

thanks, apple is really great in design stuff! - Nov 01 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

What do you mean "again"?
I didn't notice he came back anyway.
However, i don't think he's "a big whining baby". Allthough i do not really know, what happened and what he was called - i think it was certainly disappointing and insulting.
But yes! I hope he's just a bit sulking and then returns to the light side of source... (too much jedi academy, thx to wineX) ;-) - Nov 01 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

gradient-aqua
i released it some month ago
there will be a new (better) version after kde 3.2 is released (as the kwin api will probably change) - Nov 01 2003

Baghira

KDE 3.5 Themes by thomas12777 1258 comments

in fact, i didn't do any changes to mosfet's kwin client - so i don't know, why it doesn't compile for you if the original one did.
and as i stated: i hate makefiles (probably cause i cant really handle them) so maybe that make fails to things i didn't edit (also the global makefile does't work and i just don't know why :-( - Nov 01 2003

Is this possible? (rounded focus rect)

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by mriya3 5 comments

OK... UHHOHH...
My Fault.
Allthough it really CAN be done without hacking qt - this is REALLY slow (as you have to use and rescale pixmaps, qt does't use a primive to draw this (as i thaougt that would be pe_checkmark) but directly draws a filled rect).

Therefore i'd suggest to suggest this to qt (i guess you also want user relative colored background?!), cause in qticonview it's really easy to implement this.
sorry. - Oct 31 2003

Is this possible? (rounded focus rect)

KDE 3.0-3.4 Themes by mriya3 5 comments

Yes, it is. (At least for the highlight box)
I'll try to include someting like this in Baghira / unrelesed until I have mosfet's OK) - Oct 31 2003

jaguarx

Cursors by tinic 20 comments

Extract to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons or ~/.icons
and then modify /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/index.theme or ~/.icons/default/index.theme to point to the jaguarx directory... that's it. - Jul 23 2003

Blue Code Levitation

Wallpaper Other by LeChuck 6 comments

That cool Dalai-GNU thing just replaced my poor Wallpaper "stolen" from Apple...!

Thanks! - Jul 18 2003

Konsolewrap

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements by bk12 24 comments

Hi. I know this is a poor question, but which font do you use for your Konsole?
(At least my standard Font is with Serifs and I yet haven't found a useful monospace font to use with the Konsole.

Thanks

Thomas - Jul 12 2003

Question... Is this possible?

Various Stuff by thormedia 14 comments

I think the brushed theme came with apple's hardware accelerated gui support for osx.
This way it will probably profit from gpu's pixel shaders - so (with software pixel shading) this will pretty much result in some kind of "low performance liquid"!

Just my 2 cents - Jun 09 2003

Tropical TuxSaver Source

Screensavers by linuxbeest 27 comments

Just installed from RPM (huhhh... now i'm a lamer ;-)
This IS a cool piece of software (i know the correct spelling -just not less then 5 minutes from awakening...)
however, if you want users to create new models, you should probably release a filter for a modeler (i guess you DON'T write the models in an editor...) or at least specify, which format you use (i know 3ds and some id stuff - that's it)

thomas - May 29 2003

Tropical TuxSaver Source

Screensavers by linuxbeest 27 comments

hi.
this seems to be some really prettty peace of software, but:
i have problems to compile, cause you're probably (certainly) using automake 1.4, which is pretty much incompatible to 1.7 - the latest version (that i use!)
so i'd like to ask if you could - please please please with a lot of sugar on it - upgrade to automake 1.7 (autoconf 2.57), so that anyone else does not have to downgrade?!

thanks
thomas - May 29 2003