Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

> /usr/lib/qt4/bin/qmake
interesting approach (but seems ubuntu has similar paths...)

try rtev. 186, i added your path to the search paths an apparently, there was a bug in the asking code - so thx for the note =) - Jun 01 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

to my shame, i've still not created a "stable" tarball
the only source is so far the svn repo.
svn co https://cloudcity.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cloudcity Bespin

then - worse - you'll have to compile the code
./configure; make; sudo make install

there're some more or less recent packages for debian/ubuntu and suse flying around

more user oriented distribution as soon as KDE4 becomes usable ;-) - May 21 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

sorry for all the work, but the backtrace is useless (all libs have been stripped, so there's no debug info available...)

you'll need to get some unstripped lib (at least for bespin) or compile yourself (what probably will fix the segfault anyway) - May 16 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

you need to say

run

to... well, run the app ;-)

(sorry, i really forgot to mention that...) - May 15 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

gdb kwrite
-> wait for crash
bt
-> see backtrace (though kde should offer you to inspect the crash from the crashhandler)

notice that there will be trouble if you binary version has been compiled against qt4.4 and you're using 4.3

other than this i suggest to try compiling the sources yourself or contact the package maintainer and ask whether this version is supposed to work on your distribution/version - May 14 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

in a way, yes
there needs to be some fallback a i cannot extrapolate the look of the window if i did not style this look (all non qt4 apps)

what the fallback looks like doesn't matter, but imho a horizonatl separator (whether shadow or carve) is a good idea as the end of teh deco will usually not match the beginning of the window, what tends to look dull... - May 14 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

both are (were) desired
ad 1: semi-reverted, i'm experimenting to lower clutter on toolbars (especially if you've got more in a row)

ad 2: the style and deco share the background, if there's no style the deco will have to use a fallback - that's currently a gradient with a shadow below (and another gradient if you want)
i'm open for any suggestions on this (NOTICE: has to look ok even with motif apps ;) - May 13 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

sorry for replying myself, guess we crossed kde-looks depth filter ;)

please try rev. 179 (178 should be fine, but has some other glitches)

i think the blending alpha value could cross 1.0 - though this is no problem on nVidia, maybe it's with the ati drivers - May 08 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

your systems seems to fail compiling the rendertest
please edit the configure script, find the line that says
"check_xrender() {"

and the line
"make -f Makefile.rendertest > /dev/null 2>&1"
remove the redirection ->
"make -f Makefile.rendertest"

reconfigure
what the output BEFORE
./rendertest not found

ps.
what scroll problem in particular? - May 08 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

thanks for the kwin build issue notion
in fact the config script needs more updates (saw the "interactive" message ;)

reg. the tab transition:
recent versions have a time driven tab transition. this ensures (well, as best as possible =) the animation is done within the set timeframe - including rendering the both tabs into buffers, what actually can take some time that is then taken away from the animation which will thus become more jumpy (or be dropped at all)

you may want to try ~350 ms and see whether the animation gets smoother (the blending code itself hardly changed, so i doubt it got notably slower) - May 05 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

would have been bespin.pro - not qmake.pro (that's the general thing calling some subdir pros, not sure if the LIBS flag is exported)

nevertheless, you may want to try rev. 172 or 173 - has an upgraded config script, but MAY segfault on 64bit arches

you may want to share your results with me then ;) - May 04 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

on kubuntu/debian xrender is currently not autoadded by the linker (we're allready flaming on this ;)

so you'll have to edit the generated bespin.pro and add
LIBS += -lXrender

then remake

i'm currently trying to figure out whether qmake should autolink render if available or why the debian linker doesn't (i'm really confused on what's "right" here) and then come up with an out of the box solution, sorry - May 02 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

yeah, another Qt4.4 thing
just released rev. 153, containig complete new animation code (and needed to somehow finish that before releasing anything else) and also fixes this one - Apr 19 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

qtconfig has it's settings in
~/.config/Trolltech.conf

latest revision (152) should however be able to manage kde and qt palettes independent (while loading a preset will alter the kde palette)

next revision will allow you to copy the kde palette to qt - Apr 14 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

for some reason KDE devs decided to maintain a palette independend from the Qt palette (and provide some imho doubtable extra color roles... who cares)

i'm working on a solution to align KDE and Qt colors (it's basically done, but currently relies on linking the bespin tool to kdeui - what i don't really want)

until thet, you'll have to setup bespin colors in qtconfig - Apr 13 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

> WARNING: Found potential symbol conflict of config.cpp (config.cpp) in SOURCES
> WARNING: Found potential symbol conflict of config.h (config.h) in HEADERS

this looks interesting.
given your echo command seems to be uncapable to handle colors, what system (linux, bsd, osx/darwin, windows etc.) are you on
(i needed to write hardcoded qmake projects from the config script, as qmake seems/ed to have trouble with environment variables)

can you please also collect all the generated .pro files and MAIL them to me for detailed inspection? - Apr 12 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

btw, afair the last stable gtk-qt release segfaulted because of the absence of scrollbarbuttons, so try switching them on in bespins config dialog - Apr 12 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

liker error, seems as if you try to link the same lib multiple times

try to build from a clean copy
(try "make distclean" or recheckout into an empty dir)

background: i changed the libname for the kde style config dialog plugin, because kcmshell4 is a bit picky here - Apr 10 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

afaik azureus is a java app and thus probably uses gtk (and maybe bespin through gtk-qt) - don't know about vlc (to my shame), but i guess it uses gtk as well

so:
1. try updating to gtk-qt svn code
(as we changed bespin + gtk-qt for more functionality)
2. can you create a gdb backtrace?
3. i'll review the code anyway for stupid assumptions on the gtk-qt version ;) - Apr 10 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

should be fixed in rev 143 - Apr 04 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

if compiling worked, you should have libbespin.so in $QTDIR/plugins/style

it will NOT appear in any KDE3 dialog

if it doesn't appear in the KDE4 style dialog, try qtconfig (about should say it's Qt4)

ensure that $QTDIR/plugins is part of your KDE4 plugin path

you can alter the KDE style setting by hand in ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals
widgetStyle=bespin

or try most Qt/KDE4 apps with --style bespin - Apr 03 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

that's a beryl/emeral thing
bespin deco to come next week (or this weekend)

will NOT look OSX alike though... - Apr 03 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

i'm currently working with dave to have better gtk-qt bespin (or general style support)
unfortunaly bespin svn is rather unusable with the latest gtk-qt release but works great on my desktop allready

( just to avoid any mourns ;P ) - Apr 01 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

my fault - forgot an #if QT_VERSION >= 0x04040 (i.e.: that's Qt 4.4beta only code)

sorry, try rev. 126 - Mar 04 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

ok, the segfault should be fixed in svn (though no qt4.4 extra primitive elements support yet - just hardened the code)

the config binary seems to be strange - it somehow seems to shadow the style lib, did you install it to $QTDIR/lib/plugins/styles ?

otherwise there's probably a bug in qt as it should not try to load an executable as style

i'll investigate on this

btw: you'll get better results when mailing me or make a bugreport to cloudcity.sf.net as i'll get a mail then as well ;) - Feb 25 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

not tried qt-4.4 yet
i guess i'll give it a try during next week and see what's going on there ;) - Feb 24 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

1. try rev. 111
2. errr... aside icons on buttons are crap - they don't exceed the button here... what font do you use? screenshot?
3. no way. (spells period, combos aren't buttons, ok - m$ say they're, apple says - still i don't buy that and i don't want to trick or be tricked by the ui)
4. hmmm.. i think not - if you want to play around: input.cpp for the lineedits, frame.cpp for textedits - Feb 03 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

there's no kwin deco - yet ;-) - Feb 01 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

the path is not necessarily 100% correct - depends on where the Qt4 libs are stored at your distro

could be (e.g.)
/usr/local/lib/
/opt/Qt4
/usr/lib/Qt4/

if unsure, best check in the package manager (or query the distros knowledge base / helpdesk) - Jan 18 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

the plugininterface probably changed - you'll have to wait until i get last kde4 sources, meanwhile call "bespin"
sorry - Jan 17 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

there seems to be a problem with your qt installation and/or ld

in general, qt should be compiled with XRender support (otherwise the OXRender lib wouldn't be compiled)

check (the path to the qt4 lib could differ)
ldd /usr/lib/libQtGui.so | grep render

should say:
libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1

if not, Qt4 is compiled w/o render, but the render flag is set - best fix Qt4 (cause this could cause more trouble with other things...)

next (if above succeeded):
grep lXrender /usr/lib/libQtGui.la

should say:
dependency_libs=' [...stuff...] -lXrender [...prob. more stuff...]

if not, the la is broken (during Qt4 installation)
a simple solution would be to include the "-lXrender" flag into this line (but still theer can be other issues as the Qt installation seems to have failed)

last:
if you're sure you have render (probably) you can simply update the Bespin Makefile.bespin (after configuring)
search the line that starts with "LIBS" an has couple of -l<somelib> entries. add -lXrender there - but this is a hack. - Jan 17 2008
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

well, i used liquid - i.e. took an existing style and just started hacking

qt has a nice document browser assistent, you may also try qt:qstyle or kde:kstyle in konqueror (though this will probably point you to qt/kde3)

so i suggest you just take the sources of a nice style and start modifying things - you'll need c++ knowledge, of course - Dec 30 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

consider the segfault to be fixed (rev. 106), i'll see ho to slim down things there (but i'm gonna keep the non square toolbutton shape) - Dec 21 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

fear that's frutiger or segoe (ui)

frutiger is a commercial font and must be purchased from linotype

segoe is part of the agfa font set that can be downloaded from (and comes with SuSE)

segoe ui is the vista font - i heard it's contained in several vista font packs or xp/vista conversion packs as well.... ;) - Dec 15 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

could you send (mail) me a snapshot of one of the rainbow gradients you talk about?

TIA - Nov 07 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

KDE/Bespin revision?

konsole looks ok here, konqueror and plasma crash instantly (konqueror probably cause it tries to load KDE3 plugings, dunno 'bout plasma) - Nov 05 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

should be fixe in rev. 72
WARNING: i changed the gradient order in rev. 70, use shiftgradients-r70.sh to update an existing store
(that's why the release number does not say 1.x ;) - Oct 20 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

type
bt
and enter (runs the backtrace)

i downloaded, compiled and tested psi 0.11 -> no crash (but i'm not sure what you mean by the chat window exactly, can send new message and i have barely any knowledge on IM in general and jabber/psi in special... so i won't even know which chat group host to join...) - Oct 19 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

does "bespin config" work?

cause of jabber: try rev.66 (but a backtrace would of cource be good, best mail it) - Oct 17 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

"However, you have made to many changes, If my memory doesn't failed tabs used to be on a black bar."

matter of configuration =) - Oct 17 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

stylehint.cpp
SH_ItemView_ActivateItemOnSingleClick

you want it to reply false

the bespin executable once a while did nothing when called without parameter (but list available parameters)

the current version should open the config dialog.
if it does not, you should call it froma a debugger

gdb bespin
run

and maybe
bt

as it works here - Oct 15 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

this specific combobox height seems to be hardcoded in this particular Qt demo app (i.e. it doesn't query the styles sizeFromeContets() function or anything else to set it's size)
don't ask me why, but it's with all styles (so application bug)

KDE4 HIG, DukeNuke 4ever, Hurd, ... there're many things ppl. wait on

i assume the style is't that much HIG dependend, and maybe i'm not gonna like everything there (seems they're about defining a lot of special colors -> 12/24 ;)

i fear the font is Segoe UI -> Vista Font (which based on Frutiger (actually stolen by M$ - in a way), so feel free to donwnload a Vista font or XP2Vista transformation pack =) - Oct 15 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

have you read the text next to the picture?

oxygen is currently developed in kde svn/playground - Aug 14 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

1. included fixx11h.h anyway (cause ppl may lack KDE...)
2. upgraded config script (please retry)
3. simon: should be fixed in rev. 28

please try, oh and did i mention to use the sf.net bugtracker? ;) - Aug 13 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

this might also be fixed by rev. 23 (i had a main function in a possible library what might confuse some compilers - gcc didn't worry however) - Aug 11 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

nope - but i don't have a 64bit arch
could you please log the complete make output (make 2>&1 | tee mylog.txt) bzip the log and mail it to me?

thanks,
btw: i want to encourage everyone to use the sf.net bugtracker ("report a bug") - Aug 11 2007
Bespin

Be-Shell/Bespin by thomas12777 1662 comments

hehe - maxima mea culpa.
i wrote that pretty much on the fly (it's full of typos as well)

thanks for the first bug report so far ;) - Aug 09 2007
Entis Cursors

Cursors by zhorak 30 comments

especially the small verision (though i run 100dpi the big ones feel too heavy)

maybe lighter shadows would be nice...?! - Jun 27 2007
Zhu3D

Science by heinzkde 49 comments

"Quite sure it works from 4.01 or so."

QGLPixelBuffer (i guess you're using this now for rendering) requires afaik Qt4.1, so compiling on Qt4.01 will probably fail - Aug 03 2006
Zhu3D

Science by heinzkde 49 comments

errr.. is everyone here trying to compile from a static makefile?
stupid idea. the qt bins can be placed and named anyhow - depending on the distributors idea of how to organize the system.

the trick is to call the proper (i.e. Qt4) qmake in the top src dir (i.e. where the .pro file is) or pass the .pro file of interest

this should generate a makefile suitable for your system.
if not, your distribution is broken, you mashed up packages (like "hey, why not install a debian package on ubuntu") or lack some.

rather a problem:
at least here (qt-copy from kde svn, is like 4.1.4) qmake seems to misinterpret "QT +=" as "QT =" (i.e. += opengl results in = opengl, no core, no gui) - you could add core and gui to the list to make sure they're included

oh and please: use the "arrage items" button on ui creation (seems to be a windows disease, especially as there are no styles) thanks.

for the rest: cool app. my vote =) - Jul 30 2006